John Cooper is the lead singer and founding member of Skillet, one of the best-selling Christian rock groups of all time. He’s also a podcaster and author whose latest book is called “Wimpy, Weak, and Woke: How Truth Can Save America from Utopian Destruction.”

John sits down with Brandon to talk about the band’s rise; raising a family while touring the world with his band; how he defines wokeness and why he feels compelled to speak out against it now; and his alternate vision for a brighter future.

He also talks about: 
- His personal religious journey in the wake of his mother passing away from cancer
- Learning to treat his music career like a business 
- How he and his wife divide responsibilities and stay in their lanes
- Why he warns Christian families not to send their kids to public school
- The Marxist origins of Critical Race Theory (CRT) 
- The Black Lives Matter riots in his hometown of Kenosha, Wisconsin
- Woke ideology infiltrating Chrstian church leadership
- Why he believes more people than ever will be born again as Christians in 2024

Books Mentioned:
- The Pursuit of God by A.W. Tozer
- The Unshakeable Kingdom and the Unchanging Person by E. Stanley Jones
- A Conflict of Visions by Thomas Sowell
- Red Rising by Pierce Brown

Connect with John:
- Buy his book the only place it’s available: https://johnlcooper.com/
- Hawk and Hatchet beard products
- His weekly podcast, Cooper Stuff

John’s charitable cause (100% of ad revenue donated here)
- Samaritan’s Purse, which provides disaster relief and humanitarian aid to people in physical need

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